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Clippers are an early call.
Thanks for the warning Tom
E Team:
Gotta pass this along. Last night I'm watching the second greatest sports movie of all time, Slap Shot, and was reminded of one of the many reasons it's such an awesome film. Remember, the Paul Newman character, player-coach Reggie Dunlap, starts a rumor that his moribund Charlestown Chiefs are going to be purchased by an ownership group in Florida, which intends to move the team. He explains that there are lots of retirees there from up north that would support the team based on their love of hockey.
Wait. This was 1977. Wasn't that years before any NHL franchise moved to anywhere south of, say, St. Louis?
Prophetic.
Great movie. Like the greatest comedy of all time, the classic "Used Cars," a movie so profane and incorrect it simply could not be made today.
And I'll buy a beer for anyone who correctly names the greatest sports movie of all time, not that I expect any of you geniuses to fail. Hint: It didn't win Best Picture, but its star won Best Actor.
Happy New Year, my friends.
Slapshot is the only great movie about hockey unless there's some Canadian or Russian low budget unknown sleeper I haven't seem.It was prescient to see hockey expanding to the sunbelt in the late 70's.Eric I'm assuming DeNiro's awesome acting job playing Jake LaMotta in "Raging Bull" is the answer but didn't it win best picture?If you stretch the concept of sports as a (peripheral)subject then for best acting with any sports connection I'd go with Brando in Elia Kazan's classic "On the Waterfront "I could've been a contender....I could've been somebody...instead I got a one way ticket to palookaville" this is the best metaphor for life in cinema history...Greatest performances in a baseball movie concerning a true story it's either Gary Cooper as Lou Gehrig or Anthony Perkins in "Fear Strikes out" as Jimmy Piersall Karl Malden is awesome as the father that drives him crazy.I'm also a big fan of "Field of Dreams" and "The Natural" among baseball fictional vehicles....Football and Basketball haven't had good movies made about them in my opinion Burt Lancaster as Jim Thorpe is quite good...Boxing has been the best sports plot to revolve a movie around can you name the first actor to win a best actor Oscar for a boxing movie?(I know this because in a misguided youthful existence I sold drugs to his great grand nephew in the late 70's and early 80's but that's another story)The list of pugilistic classics is quite long 'Golden Boy" with William Holden 'Body and Soul" with John Garfield(my dad's favorite movie) and Anthony Quinn in Rod Serling's 'Requiem for a Heavyweight" are my favorites...and Paul Newman's screen debut was as boxer Rocky Graziano in "Somebody up there likes me"
E Team:
Mark, brilliant work, as always. Yes, DeNiro won best actor for Raging Bull, but, if I'm not mistaken, it was Redford's magnificent directorial debut Ordinary People that won Best Picture, and not undeservedly so. Career performances from virtually every actor in the cast. Both movies are in my personal Top 10 all-time, perhaps Top 5.
I concur with your thoughts on On the Waterfront. (I newspapered with Bud Schulberg's nephew Pete Schulberg here in Portland.) And re. your trivia: I was going to guess Quinn or Newman in the movies you named. It wasn't Stallone or Day-Lewis or Mark Wahlburg. I give up.
E Team:
Wait. Tricky. Don't forget, Christian Bale won an Oscar for The Fighter - playing a former boxer. Amazing performance. Great movie.
Yes Bale and DDLewis as fighters were great performances indeed,The answer is Wallace Beery in the early 30's classic "The Champ" I guess no one liked Will Smith as Muhammad Ali but John Voight as Howard Cosell was great...
Wallace Beery had 2 brothers who were actors and one had a son that became a well known character actor Noah Beery Jr.best known to most in our age group as James Garner's tv dad Rocky in the Rockford Files.Noah jr. had a son who parlayed his wealth into east bay waterfront land becoming the biggest owner of bay land in the city of Alameda.This is significant because Alameda is an island adjacent to Oakland for those of you unfamiliar with the area.He famously dumped a truckload of manure on the steps of city hall there to protest a ruling against one his developments.It was the son of this Berry that I knew in the wild 70's
Another great boxing movie is Bogart's last appearance as a corrupt sports writer on the take to promote mob boxers in 'The Harder They Fall" which is essentially the story of Primo Canera and how the mob set him up as a fake champion by fixing all his fights until he lost to Max Baer and speaking of Baer Russell Crowe's performance as James Braddock who took Baer's title in "Cindrella Man" was fabulous as well
No Brian's Song. Billy Dee Williams can pass for Gale Sayers better than Any impersonater of an athlete. Bang The Drum Slowly, had it been made today, might address the impaired mind of an athlete (DeNiro's) better than Will Smith's current NFL muckraker tale on an emotional level. Chris Rock trick biking down a staircase and flying over a passing train started New Jack City with a tribute to a great ski movie called Downhill Racer. A wind tear of a ski jacket tips a doomed racer over. LeMans about the 24 hour car race was factual and comprehensive for its time. Rollerball was the bestof all in terms of the change in the marketing of sports from one man one team to the current state of instability among faces of franchises traded and even leagues competing with franchises for supremacy.
Honorary Mention The Longest Yard, Baseball by Ken Burns based on The Ultimate Baseball Book that was edited by Daniel Okrent and Harris Levine.
Also Don Cheadle in The Goat, Hoop Dreams, Ronald Reagan as The Gipper.
Tommie Lee Jones as Cobb did not adequately capture the evil in a southern rebel. If Edward G. Robinson could have played The Georgia Peach the way he played Little Caesar, that would have taken the cake. Just saw LC at a free show on Fridays at The Museum of Modern Art. Made in 1931, it stands the test of time as well as any film.
Question. Who could make a movie about Olympian Bruce/Katlyn Jenner?
Could My Left Foot be a soccer movie? Did it win The Oscar? Chariots of Fire sucked but won, if memory serves me. Seabiscuit was fabulous.
A Soldier's Story was fabulous and included more baseball scenes than boxing scenes in On The Waterfront.
Eric, the Houston Aeros of the WHL predated Slap Shot.
Correction, Mark said Slap Shot predated sun belt hockey. Calgary Flames moved to Atlanta not long after Slap Shot was made so there must have been rumors.
Sorry, it was Eric who inferred that the franchise that belonged in Canada became Floridian in a make believe movie before reality set in. In that deceptive light, did you know The Apollo Theater in Harlem used to be For Whites Only. I do not mean Jojo, Reggie, or Roy.
How can anyone leave the pursuit of OJ out of the best sports scene on film. It prempted the NBA Finals between NY and Houston. What if Jordan was playing? Same result I guess.
I thought Eriq Lasalle was great in Goat he directed and appeared in the movie but he was another drug addict character perhaps Lamar Odom's life will be made into a similar movie now that he had a stroke at a Vegas brothel the Kardashians and Jenner should produce and star as themselves.....Odom went to 4 high schools and 3 colleges but played only one season at Rhode Island.Even UNLV failed to convince the faculty to keep him eligible!Seabiscuit is great Bang the drum slowly and Brian's song are the best tragic sports movies along with the Lou Gehrig story.I didn't like the Ken Wahl TLJones interchange in Cobb but he is a legend in Reno and Tahoe in the 50's and early 60's for his antics getting thrown out of casinos at the end of his life.Best Reno filmed sports movie is Kingpin the Bill Murray/Woody Harrelson bowling comedy(is bowling a sport?)Both Babe Ruth movies were bad but Goodman did a better job than Bendix..Most basketball movies are so bad like Gabe Kaplan's Fastbreak about fictional Nevada State and the Fish that saved Pittsburgh with DrJ and that awful Will Ferrell adaptation on the history of the ABA..He got game with Ray Allen and Denzel Washington was pretty good...speaking of Soldier's story how about Bingo Long and the traveling all-stars about the Negro League era?Fictional baseball movies like Ray Miland's "It Happens Every Spring" are great Miland plays a professor who invents a liquid formula that repels wood and becomes an ace pitcher...Reagan gets ill and dies pretty quick in Knute Rockne. I enjoyed George Clooney's Leatherheads about early football .I saw the original Longest Yard in a SF hotel in the 70's first movie I ever saw in a hotel room that I rented... in that era I liked Nick Nolte and Mac Davis in 'North Dallas Forty" the first movie to address drug use in sports and Warren Beatty's "Heaven Can Wait" did you know real life Ram/USC QB Pat Haden now USC AD played Beatty's in game action scenes? the original Rollerball I love I've seen it 20 times but it's sports sci-fi the re-make was terrible
Now that OJ is in "the picture", the "presumed dead" Bison Dele was named Brian Williams by his Dad, the lead singer of The Platters. The late Mel Farr is heard on Marvin Gaye's What's Going On."
Ray Milland as a drunk in The Lost Weekend is the closest an American has come to compare with the greatest actor of all, Alec Guinness. How come Bridge Over The River Kwai never gets credit as best war flick. Back to sports, Deerhunter count? Opening scene of Russian Roulette breath taking ganbler moment on film. Asian gangster can not pronounce Now so he repeatedly screams "Mow".
Reagan did a great job as a drunken Grover Cleveland Alexander in a baseball movie and Dan Dailey's version of Dizzy Dean was pretty good too
Not a Caddyshack fan but what do I know?
I think mow is really a Vietnamese word for go now or hurry...I saw Bison Dele on a street in the LODO section of Denver when he was with the Nuggets carrying what looked like a purse euphemistically called a clutch by over civilized Europeans
We are Marshall is another one that is probably better than I think it is.
Anyone see Hurricane? (Carter) Worth watching?
Seeing stars unexpectedly is topped by Eric or his pal offering the bicyclist Bill Walton a toke.
Magic starting five scores 20 points vs Cavs. Magic Bus by The Who the theme song before lineups were announced?
Robbie Benson in One On One is a movie about hoops that reminds me of the starting five who scored 20 for the Magic tonite.
Best hoops movie is Hoosiers.
Mark, since you may be an "overcivilized European who gets to say instead of carry a clutch when watching Curry, did you know pneumatic tubes beneath Paris in 1972 carried what are now text messages, email, etc.
Cast of The Longest Yard includes Ray Nitschke as Bogdanski, Joe Kapp as The Walking Boss and Sonny Sixkiller as the Indian.
E Team:
Tom, A Soldier's Story is terrible. Seabiscuit is the worst movie ever made. And don't bother with Hurricane. But big ups for Bingo Long. As I recall, that was a pretty good movie.
E Team:
Sonny Sixkiller. Ashland, OR native. Nice. Played at Washington before the Throwin' Samoan, Jack Thompson, and another guy named Samoa Samoa.
Billy Martin any good in One in A Million: The Ron LeFlore Story?
Mel Counts from Coos Bay won two titles with the Celtics in '65-'66.
Ron LeFlore was played by Levar Burton, who looks as much like a ex-con baseball player as I resemble Scarlett Johansson.
E Team:
Didn't Counts play on the same Oregon State team as Frank Peters, who later managed the Portland Mavericks? And am I correct in assuming that all of you guys have by now watched the glorious Battered Bastards of Baseball, maybe the best baseball movie ever if you count documentaries?
pnuematic tubes run under NY along parts of the subway system it was an elaborate idea to send messages in tubes pushed by air to other NY subway locations long before radio was common or there was any tv let alone email... Beaver Mel Counts and Duck Jim Barnett were native Oregonian teammates on one of those Celtic championship teams... I hated Robby Benson he was insulting as a supposed athlete in that movie as was Dean Butler(Gonzo in Little House on the Prarie)in the tv movie 'Forever" he was a year behind me in high school and he wasn't good enough to make jv in real life...Another real bad one was Anthony Perkins in 'Tall Story" as a college star with Jane Fonda I have to agree that Hoosiers is the best basketball movie but I couldn't have played for Gene Hackman I wouldn't wait for 3-4 passes before taking a shot...
Final Swat upsets the first place Wingos with a big 234-193 win Sw(Westbrook-30...Klay-38...Dray-65...Monroe-34...MGas-33...ITom-34)HW(Rondo-31...Lowry-36...Middleton-22...LBJ-39...Gortat-28...Pau-31)has anyone noticed the triple doubles Draymond has been putting up every night?I told 2 members of my old high school team at a Cal game recently that we may not have Jordan to match the Bull 72 win squad but we have Jerry West his name is Steph Curry and we have a better Pippen his name is Draymond Green
Final Invaders beat depleted JRB squad 181-106 I(Howard-36...Cousins-44...Warren-28...Derozan-25...Clarkson-24...Towns-24)JRB(Vucevic-25...Hayward-24...Favors-DNP...Tyreke-DNP...Curry-12...Whiteside-45)Tom you were wrong Clips played tonight
Partials ETeam 184 P4 169 needing 16 from Milsap....Nitecaps 191 Ticket 178 Tom needs just 14 from Horford ...Billy Martin's given name was Alfred Manuel Pesano he changed it to his step father's more American sounding name Martin.Billy played basketball for Berkeley High as well as baseball.In 1945 his team played my rich kid high school Piedmont High.After being insulted and taunted with epithets such as little grease ball by Piedmont star Tom Witter (from the wealthy Dean Witter family our football field was Witter field)Martin went into the Piedmont locker room after the game and beat the shit out of him.He was suspended from his team for the rest of the season....
since battered bastards is about Portland baseball I've never seen it down here
I have seen The Battered....thanks to Eric. It has a longer single narrative line than Baseball by Ken Burns. It is also about a shift in power from oligarchs to individuals running a sports concern. Baseball by KB sort of kept the little man out of the market, a fact of life.
Cap Anson was betrayed by Al Spalding as a team owner Spalding "would groom". Branch Rickey keeping talent buried in the minors was another message from Baseball by KB. Integration of managers (besides cry baby Frank Robinson) seems to have come about after Al Campanis wise cracked about blacks being unfit to manage. That was not in Baseball. Perhaps Bonds the Marlin will fend off Arod the ped legalizer. That would help drive away the Magic Johnsons from distributing ownership powers to the players who build the history of the game. Battered ... is more uplifting than Baseball by KB. But there was some fluctuations in intensity of dramatic standing of characters in Battered.
E Team:
Bastards is a Netflix production. One can watch it there anytime. Required viewing for you Portland guys. But you, too, Mark.
Nice game the Ducks played last night.
Final we have our second tie game Nitecaps-Ticket finish at 191 each Caps(RJax-21...George-50...Kemba-31...Bosh-27...Drummond-32...Wiggins-30)T(DJordan-37...Horford-13...Kawhi-30...KD-46...Wade-20...Wall-45)Final P4 rolls over ETeam 200-184 P4(BLopez-47...Paul-35...Harden-23...Melo-30...Milsap-31...Knight-34)E(AF-47...Lamarcus-35...Butler-35...Dirk-16...MCW-23...Thad-28)234 by Swat is the MHS winning total
I only see 16 for Wade?
Ticket sees Horford 13-3-2-1-0=19
On Friday Wade went 10-2-7-0-1=20.
Please acknowledge Ticket edging out his generous host in Vegas by 197-191.
Correction Ticket does defeat Nitecaps 197-191 Horford had 19 my mistake there but Wade did have 20 as Tom posted not 16
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